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 ecommerce:shopping_for_ecommerce_solutions [2021/10/18 02:43] – [Shopping for eCommerce solutions] mithat ecommerce:shopping_for_ecommerce_solutions [2021/12/25 05:54] (current) – [Square Online/Weebly] mithat Both sides previous revisionPrevious revision2021/12/25 05:54 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/30 00:24 mithat [Conclusions] 2021/10/19 21:42 mithat [WordPress+WooCommerce] 2021/10/19 21:41 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/19 21:38 mithat [WordPress+WooCommerce] 2021/10/18 20:46 mithat [Conclusions] 2021/10/18 20:43 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/18 02:58 mithat 2021/10/18 02:46 mithat [Shop 0.0.1] 2021/10/18 02:45 mithat [Conclusions] 2021/10/18 02:43 mithat [Shopping for eCommerce solutions] 2021/10/18 02:42 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/18 02:40 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/18 02:39 mithat [Ecwid] 2021/10/18 02:38 mithat [Ecwid] 2021/10/18 02:38 mithat [Shift4Shop/3dcartstores] 2021/10/18 02:36 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/18 02:24 mithat [Shop 0.0.2] 2021/10/18 02:24 mithat [Shop 0.0.2] 2021/10/18 02:23 mithat [Shopping for eCommerce solutions] 2021/10/18 02:11 mithat [Shop 0.0.2] 2021/10/18 02:03 mithat [Shop 0.0.2] 2021/10/18 01:57 mithat [Shop 0.0.2] 2021/10/18 01:53 mithat 2021/10/18 01:52 mithat [Ecwid] 2021/10/18 01:39 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/18 01:37 mithat [Shop 0.0.1] 2021/10/18 01:32 mithat 2021/10/18 01:28 mithat createdNext revision Previous revision2021/12/25 05:54 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/30 00:24 mithat [Conclusions] 2021/10/19 21:42 mithat [WordPress+WooCommerce] 2021/10/19 21:41 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/19 21:38 mithat [WordPress+WooCommerce] 2021/10/18 20:46 mithat [Conclusions] 2021/10/18 20:43 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/18 02:58 mithat 2021/10/18 02:46 mithat [Shop 0.0.1] 2021/10/18 02:45 mithat [Conclusions] 2021/10/18 02:43 mithat [Shopping for eCommerce solutions] 2021/10/18 02:42 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/18 02:40 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/18 02:39 mithat [Ecwid] 2021/10/18 02:38 mithat [Ecwid] 2021/10/18 02:38 mithat [Shift4Shop/3dcartstores] 2021/10/18 02:36 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/18 02:24 mithat [Shop 0.0.2] 2021/10/18 02:24 mithat [Shop 0.0.2] 2021/10/18 02:23 mithat [Shopping for eCommerce solutions] 2021/10/18 02:11 mithat [Shop 0.0.2] 2021/10/18 02:03 mithat [Shop 0.0.2] 2021/10/18 01:57 mithat [Shop 0.0.2] 2021/10/18 01:53 mithat 2021/10/18 01:52 mithat [Ecwid] 2021/10/18 01:39 mithat [Square Online/Weebly] 2021/10/18 01:37 mithat [Shop 0.0.1] 2021/10/18 01:32 mithat 2021/10/18 01:28 mithat created Line 8: Line 8: ===== Shop 0.0.1 ===== ===== Shop 0.0.1 ===== + + ==== WordPress+WooCommerce ==== **TL;DR:** [[https://woocommerce.com/|WordPress+WooCommerce]] has a lot of potential. More research is needed to evaluate fulfillment features. The plugin-based architecture could create maintenance issues. The reliance on third-party stuff diminishes the FOSS-appeal. **TL;DR:** [[https://woocommerce.com/|WordPress+WooCommerce]] has a lot of potential. More research is needed to evaluate fulfillment features. The plugin-based architecture could create maintenance issues. The reliance on third-party stuff diminishes the FOSS-appeal. - A couple years ago, I set up a trial [[https://woocommerce.com/|WordPress+WooCommerce]] shop  partially to learn its in and outs for client work and partially to see if it would eventually work as a solution for my own shop. This should come as little surprise to those who know what a supporter of FOSS I am. + A couple years ago, I set up a [[https://woocommerce.com/|WordPress+WooCommerce]] shop both to learn its ins and outs for client work and to see if it would eventually work as a solution for my own shop. This should come as little surprise to those who know what a supporter of FOSS I am. - What I found is that while it’s possible to build a shop with WordPress+WooCommerce, to make it useful you’ll need to add some third-party plugins, some by WooCommerce, some not, FOSS, some not. This arguably turns the open-source platform into a distributed proprietary one. Apart form the compromise in computing ecology this represents, it introduces two additional issues of concern: (1) There’s no guarantee that a third-party plugin you’re relying on will be maintained in the future, and (2) there’s no guarantee that the pricing model for a third party plugin you’re relying on won’t change. It also introduces a couple usability issues for the shop maintainer: the management of features tends to get a little spidery, and updating plugins can be chaotic if done automatically; if done manually a lot of diligence is required. Not a deal-killer, but a bit of a papercut. + What I found is that while it’s possible to build a shop with WordPress+WooCommerce, to make it useful you’ll need to add some third-party plugins, some by WooCommerce, some not, some FOSS, some not. This arguably turns the open-source platform into a distributed proprietary one. Apart form the compromise in computing ecology this represents, it introduces two additional issues of concern: (1) There’s no guarantee that a third-party plugin you’re relying on will be maintained in the future, and (2) there’s no guarantee that the pricing model for a third party plugin you’re relying on won’t change. It also introduces a couple usability issues for the shop maintainer: the management of features tends to get a little spidery, and updating plugins can be chaotic if done automatically; if done manually a lot of diligence is required. Not a deal-killer, but a bit of a papercut. As far as how well WordPress+WooCommerce lines up with my three desired features: As far as how well WordPress+WooCommerce lines up with my three desired features: Line 19: Line 21: * It can be very low cost to run — free in fact if you don’t count webhosting that you already have. However, running it for “free” will limit the plugins you can use. * It can be very low cost to run — free in fact if you don’t count webhosting that you already have. However, running it for “free” will limit the plugins you can use. * WooCommerce’s own tax calculation plugin promises to do what I need, and initial testing suggests that it works. Other options exist but get very costly very quickly. * WooCommerce’s own tax calculation plugin promises to do what I need, and initial testing suggests that it works. Other options exist but get very costly very quickly. - * The [[https://woocommerce.com/products/woocommerce-amazon-fulfillment/|plugin for Fulfillment by Amazon]] is a bit costly. We aren’t talking about Amazon’s service fees here, we’re talking about having plunk down $129 a year on top of those. It looks other fulfillment integrations may be possible. This needs some research. + * The [[https://woocommerce.com/products/woocommerce-amazon-fulfillment/|plugin for Fulfillment by Amazon]] is a bit costly. We aren’t talking about Amazon’s service fees here, we’re talking about having plunk down$129 a year on top of those. However, other fulfillment integrations appear to be possible. This needs some research. + Other pros and cons include: + + * Because it's so popular, there are a //lot// of plugins. This means if you want to add something to your store (e.g., on-demand printing of swag) you'll probably have a decent range of service providers to pick from. ===== Shop 0.0.2 ===== ===== Shop 0.0.2 ===== Line 32: Line 37: ==== Square Online/Weebly ==== ==== Square Online/Weebly ==== - **TL;DR:** [[https://squareup.com/us/en/online-store|Square Online]] (formerly Weebly) seems like a solution if their template works for you. Tax needs testing. Fulfillment integration needs research. + **TL;DR:** [[https://squareup.com/us/en/online-store|Square Online]] (formerly Weebly) seems like a solution if their template works for you. Tax needs testing. In terms of required features: In terms of required features: Line 38: Line 43: * It’s very affordable: there’s no cost to start. * It’s very affordable: there’s no cost to start. * It promises automatic sales tax computation. But this needs testing, esp. for local tax granularity. * It promises automatic sales tax computation. But this needs testing, esp. for local tax granularity. - * Support for third-party fulfillment doesn’t seem to be mentioned by Square, but [[https://www.shipbob.com/partners/square/|ShipBob]] says they provide it. (See [[https://www.shipbob.com/blog/square-fulfillment/|this]] as well.) + * It supports third-party fulfillment with the [[https://squareup.com/us/en/app-marketplace/app/shipbob|ShipBob plugin]]. (See also [[https://www.shipbob.com/partners/square/|this]] and [[https://www.shipbob.com/blog/square-fulfillment/|this]].) Other pros and cons: Other pros and cons: - * No plugins, so much less anxiety of abandonware. + * No plugins ("apps" in Squarespeak) are required and there aren't that many plugins available, so there's not much less anxiety of plugins becoming abandonware. * It's easy to use, though not nearly as easy as they would have you think. * It's easy to use, though not nearly as easy as they would have you think. - * Running under your own domain will require a paid tier. But the ''%%.square.site%%'' URL they give you is decent, and the ''%%%%'' is easy to change. + * Running under your own domain requires a paid tier. But the ''%%.square.site%%'' URL they give you is decent, and the ''%%%%'' is easy to change. * The retail template is functional, but they only offer one, along with a number of styling (font and color) options. * The retail template is functional, but they only offer one, along with a number of styling (font and color) options. + * Supports print on demand sales with a [[https://squareup.com/us/en/app-marketplace/app/printful|Printful plugin]]. + * The store's navigation isn't that flexible or that great. + * I've been getting a //lot// of emails from Square now, some trying to upsell. Line 72: Line 80: * There’s a no-cost tier, but … * There’s a no-cost tier, but … * You don’t get automated tax calculations unless you pay for the $15/mo package. * You don’t get automated tax calculations unless you pay for the$15/mo package. - * I'm assuming integrations are possible, but without automated tax for no cost, I decided not to do more research. + * Fulfillment using the [[https://www.ecwid.com/apps/storemanagement/efulfillment-service|eFulfillment Service plugin]], [[https://redstagfulfillment.com/integrations/ecwid-fulfillment-services/|Red Stag Fulfillment]], and purportedly the [[https://www.ecwid.com/apps/featured/zapier|Zapier plugin]]. ===== Conclusions ===== ===== Conclusions ===== - TBD. + Assuming Square Online passes sales tax testing, it's going to be a close fight between Square Online and WordPress+WooCommerce. + + Stay tuned.
ecommerce/shopping_for_ecommerce_solutions.1634525037.txt.gz · Last modified: 2021/10/18 02:43 by mithat