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 ====== Messaging Candidates ====== ====== Messaging Candidates ======
  
-This is a summary of candidates for a cross-platform, user friendly ext messaging platform for general use instead of Facebook Messenger, Google Hangouts/GTalk, etc. Mobile-friendly solutions have some precedence as mobile texting seems to be the dominant modality at the moment.+This is a summary of candidates for a cross-platform, user friendly text messaging platform for general use instead of Facebook Messenger, Google Hangouts/GTalk, etc. Mobile-friendly solutions have some precedence as mobile texting seems to be the dominant use case at the moment.
  
 ===== Requirements ===== ===== Requirements =====
  
-The starting point is the [[https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard|EFF's Secure Messaging Scorecard]] (as of 14 July 2015). From that list, only entries that have at most one red mark are considered.+The starting point in candidate selection is the now obsolete [[https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard|EFF's Secure Messaging Scorecard]] (as of 14 July 2015). From that list, only entries that have at most one red mark are considered.
  
 In addition, the ideal candidate will: In addition, the ideal candidate will:
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   * Offer privacy and security protections by default.   * Offer privacy and security protections by default.
   * Feel like it's not going to abandoned.   * Feel like it's not going to abandoned.
 +  * Not require a phone number create an account.
   * Not require your phone number to be divulged to everyone with whom you communicate.   * Not require your phone number to be divulged to everyone with whom you communicate.
  
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 In-browser tool. Not really what we are after. In-browser tool. Not really what we are after.
  
-==== Telegram ====+==== Telegram Messenger ==== 
 +[[https://telegram.org/|link]]
   * //Be federated with an open source server.// The server is currently closed source. Federated open source services appear to be planned. From the [[https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-are-secret-chats-different|FAQ]]:   * //Be federated with an open source server.// The server is currently closed source. Federated open source services appear to be planned. From the [[https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-are-secret-chats-different|FAQ]]:
  
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 > All code will be released eventually. We started with the most useful parts -- a well-documented API that allows developers to build new Telegram apps, and open source clients that can be verified by security specialists. > All code will be released eventually. We started with the most useful parts -- a well-documented API that allows developers to build new Telegram apps, and open source clients that can be verified by security specialists.
  
-  * //Offer privacy and security protections by default.// For the highest security (i.e., full marks from EFF), secret chats can be used. See the [[https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram|FAQ]]. also, the [[https://telegram.org/privacy|privacy policy]] is encouraging. +  * //Offer privacy and security protections by default.// For the highest security (i.e., full marks from EFF), secret chats can be used. See the [[https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram|FAQ]]. also, the [[https://telegram.org/privacy|privacy policy]] is encouraging. Questions have also been raised regarding the solidity of its encryption((See[[http://gizmodo.com/why-you-should-stop-using-telegram-right-now-1782557415|Why You Should Stop Using Telegram Right Now]], [[http://fortune.com/2016/08/02/telegram-hackers-iran/|Iranian Hackers Just Cracked This Super Secure Instant Messaging Service]], and [[https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/11/14237136/trump-leak-telegram-security-cracked-russia-encryption|Trump leak raises new questions about Telegram security]].)) 
-  * //Not require your phone number to be divulged to everyone with whom you communicate.// The path of least resistance for using Telegram is to use your phone number as your identifier. See [[Telegram|Telegram use notes]] for more info. +  * //Not require a phone number to create an account.// The only way to open a Telegram account is by using an SMS-enabled phone number
 +  * //Not require your phone number to be divulged to everyone with whom you communicate.// The path of least resistance for using Telegram is to use your phone number as your identifier; however username identification is possible. See [[Telegram|Telegram use notes]] for more info. 
  
 Additional vetting of the founders' financial and other interests is required before a firm recommendation can be made. However the founders seem not to be invested with [[http://vk.com/|VKontakte]] any longer, and the operation is based in Berlin. Additional vetting of the founders' financial and other interests is required before a firm recommendation can be made. However the founders seem not to be invested with [[http://vk.com/|VKontakte]] any longer, and the operation is based in Berlin.
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 Open Whisper Systems' partnership with WhatsApp/Facebook renders any security and privacy provisions suspect. Whatever lives within WhatsApp/Facebook is effectively governed by WhatsApp/Facebook privacy and security. In the absence of additional information, this renders this option ineligible for further consideration. Open Whisper Systems' partnership with WhatsApp/Facebook renders any security and privacy provisions suspect. Whatever lives within WhatsApp/Facebook is effectively governed by WhatsApp/Facebook privacy and security. In the absence of additional information, this renders this option ineligible for further consideration.
  
-===== Recommendation =====+==== Tox ==== 
 +Relative newcomer [[https://tox.chat/index.html|Tox]] doesn't appear on the EFF's list. A more complete evaluation is pending, but initially this looks like a winner.
  
-Right now, I can't honestly recommend any of the preceding for general use. Telegram comes close, but its use of your phone number as effectively the only source for identification while fine for an SMS replacement is not acceptable for a general text messaging platform.+===== Recommendation =====
  
 +Tox needs a more complete evaluation, but on the surface it is encouraging. Telegram comes close to a recommendation, but the questions surrounding its encryption, its use of your phone number as the primary source for identification, and its clunky use of usernames makes an enthusiastic recommendation difficult.
  
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